Posts by rebelfighter

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

rebelfighter

Ghiagirl,

The sad thing is this behavior actually happens in families outside of the cult as well. No one in my family was in the cult and there were only three of us my mother and a sister. I was considered a part of the family ONLY when I was writing someone checks otherwise all Hell was the name of the game. The most abusive phone calls, they even confronted my children offering to take them in because we know your mother is not good. Of course my kids came straight to me and reported this crazy behavior. It took till I was 60 to cut all ties with these people. My kids cut ties with them long before I did.

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For the struggling faders and control freaks

by dubstepped in

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i see people struggling with maintaining control over their reactions to their witness relatives and something struck me that i'd like to share.

as a jw you're taught that you should have unlimited self-control.

article after article, talk after talk, about controlling your impure thoughts, feelings, music, movies, speech, actions, literally everything a human could struggle with.

rebelfighter

Dubstepped,

Excellent post, never a JW but this is soooo very true. It took the "Elder", the County Sheriff and Social Services to convince me that I could not continue carrying for my ALZ mother. She was extremely violent and as the Sheriff said we are watching your house for your safety one of these calls unfortunately is going to be to take you to the hospital when she seriously hurts you, she has no clue what she is doing.

The really bad part was at the time I had three people in my life that was extremely toxic, I finally wised up and walked away from 2 of them and threatened the 3rd that he would be homeless if he did not straighten up.

I am a much happier person today and when someone starts their crap I either hang up the phone or walk away. They now know it is over I am not going to be walked all over, end of game. Sad part is it took 60 years to get to this point.

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How many of you are health nuts?

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

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there was/is a sister in my old hall who was a pharmaceutical sales rep and she was a huge proponent of anything in the drug industry.

when someone had a headache, she was the first to say "take an asprin.

" now my husband and i are what you might call old hippies.

rebelfighter

I am totally with you on the natural foods and now all my doctors have resorted to finding any natural remedies possible before writing a prescription. They are simply done with all the allergic reactions and drug sensitivity. I am in my mid 60'S and all my numbers are right on, normally workout on a daily basis, eat extremely healthy and the only medication which I take is a very high dose of a migraine preventative that is unavoidable.

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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?

by Sabin in

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so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?

because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.

".

rebelfighter

Here are two more the "Elder" used that drove me nuts:

Satin - I finally told him in the last email do not mention him again because I swear you worship Satin rather than Jehovah.

We will see - he used this phrase everytime he needed to say NO, the man could not say the word no.

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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?

by Sabin in

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so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?

because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.

".

rebelfighter

Never a JW but I will add my .02 cents. The JWS call apostates mentally diseased and the apostates call those still stuck in the cult mentally diseased (partly correct). IMHO after watching the ARC those who are mentally diseased are the Elders and straight up the chain of command, to be able to treat another human being in this manner is just not right, to take an oath to tell the truth and out right lie. My mother has full blown Alz she does not say I do not remember as much as those Elders said I do not remember.

As a wordly person my vote is for two phrases:

Wordly people

Mentally diseased (elders on up till they wake up and exit the cult)

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Your favorite "bumper stickers"

by new boy in

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i have two.

"please god protect me from your people".

"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .

rebelfighter

Some days all I want to be is a missing person.

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Do you still believe in God?

by FormerlySandL in

i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

rebelfighter

I have 2 questions for you to think about, I am not looking for answers:

If God had created Religion how many would there honestly be?

Who wrote the Bible and how do you really know that it is the word of God? Do you really think a loving and caring God would want all the hate and fighting that is in the Old Testament?

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Do you still believe in God?

by FormerlySandL in

i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

rebelfighter

Good morning FormlySandL,

I was never a JW, only introduced to the religion by the"Elder". I gave up on religion totally 16 years ago as they are all man made. I believe in God and I am very spiritual. About 40 years ago I asked a very similar question to your OP when I lost my first son. The best advise I received was a book, When Bad Things Happen To Good People by Harold Kushner.

It has helped me over the years to remember that God is not responsible for what goes on in our lives but is there to walk with us through our good times and lean on through our struggles.

I also have hanging on the wall in my bedroom a poem which I read every morning and night. It has been made into a song by an American country singer.

Footprints in the Sand

BTW, welcome to the forum and good luck to the rest of your life cult free I am sure it will be wonderful. This forum helped me a lot when the "elder" said good bye have a nice life after 5 years. With no warning, nothing just a bloody email.

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Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

by OrphanCrow in

another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

rebelfighter

Whatever happened to throwing away the keys to the jail cell and let them rot there. These kid's have to live with the consequences of what this man did for the rest of their lives.

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A question on natural selection

by The Rebel in

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last friday my boy of ten was very late back from school, so i called the school, they called the police, and to cut a long horrible exsperience short he had been helping a younger boy fly his kite.. but what has occurred to me is that when orlando was 5 years old he was totally dependent on mummy and daddy, whilst horses, cats, birds and other animals are born and are independent within days.. so my question on natural selection is, how are we humuns still here?.

the rebel..

rebelfighter

My heart goes out to you. The grow out to you, they grow up. Cherish every moment. Mine are now 30 and 24. Yes they do forget to tell mom when kite flying has taken priority over coming home and they just do not get how come mom would ever panic over such little matters. Now my son has 2 of his own and he is finally getting it 30 years later, only after he caused me many a heart attacks.